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Re: [maxq-users] anybody want these features?

Author petersm <petersm at venzia dot com>
Full name petersm <petersm at venzia dot com>
Date 2004-04-12 12:22:13 PDT
Message Frank Cohen

> I like the idea too! And would like to participate in the design.
>
> By the way, there is another commercial company:
>
> http://www.soft.com/eValid/

I looked briefly at this and it seems ok, but designed to be used by
non-programmers to create tests. I think the aim of this project should be to
create testing scripts that programmers would use and augment/modify as they
see fit. I initially didn't see a way to manually edit the tests from the
eValid thing.

> that signed a license with Microsoft and uses IE as its Mozilla to
> accomplish a test recorder environment.
>
> In my opinion, the DOM inspector is nice to have to not necessary. The
> bigger issue will be to create a GUI that rides along with Mozilla to
> let the user control/edit the scripts as they are being recorded.
This is fairly straighforward using XUL (XML UserInterface Language) which is
used by Mozilla and all it's plugins. The code would be written in javascript
and the XPCom objects that Mozilla presents/creates. If you want to look at
how this is done, go to xulplanet.com for descriptions/tutorials.

After everyone has looked at how that is done I have this question... Is that
how we want to do it? I think there are several pros and cons.

Pros.
 - It's embedded in the browser which makes it easy and eliminates the need
for a proxy and having to turn the proxy on and off.
 - the controls are right there for recording, etc the tests.
 
Cons
 - It will be Mozilla specific. This doesn't really bother me since it's
probably the most standards compliant browser out there and FireFox is gaining
popularity.
 - It is written mostly in Javascript. On my initial investigations, I haven't
found that other languages are available.

If we don't go with the Mozilla plugin route, then we should probably just
make these improvements to MaxQ itself instead of spinning off for this project.

Personally, I think it would be cool to do it as a Mozilla plugin, but I think
 we should decide as a group.

>I'm
> thinking that most users will want to use the actual HMTL forms in
> Mozilla to interact with the host. Also we need something to present a
> simple GUI that controls playing a recorded session. For this I
> contribute the design for TestMaker 5's recorder. I sent Philippe the
> design document (that includes a screen shot walking tour of the GUI.)
> I'll post this to the PushToTest site for your info.
>
> Also, at some point a Wiki for this new generation of MaxQ would be
> handy. I can offer that on the PushToTest Web site if needed.

Yet another good idea.

Michael Peters
Venzia

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[maxq-users] anybody want these features? petersm <petersm at venzia dot com> petersm <petersm at venzia dot com> 2004-04-12 08:11:19 PDT
     RE: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? pombredanne Philippe Ombredanne 2004-04-12 08:44:52 PDT
         RE: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? petersm <petersm at venzia dot com> petersm <petersm at venzia dot com> 2004-04-12 09:03:17 PDT
             RE: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? pombredanne Philippe Ombredanne 2004-04-12 09:36:59 PDT
                 Re: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? fcohen Frank Cohen 2004-04-12 10:07:00 PDT
                     RE: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? pombredanne Philippe Ombredanne 2004-04-12 10:14:47 PDT
                         Re: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? James Cooper <pixel at bitmechanic dot com> James Cooper <pixel at bitmechanic dot com> 2004-04-13 16:35:28 PDT
                             Re: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? fcohen Frank Cohen 2004-04-13 16:49:41 PDT
                                 RE: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? pombredanne Philippe Ombredanne 2004-04-13 20:21:54 PDT
                                 Re: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? James Cooper <pixel at bitmechanic dot com> James Cooper <pixel at bitmechanic dot com> 2004-04-13 21:36:09 PDT
                                     Re: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? fcohen Frank Cohen 2004-04-14 07:10:10 PDT
                                         Re: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? petersm <petersm at venzia dot com> petersm <petersm at venzia dot com> 2004-04-14 07:56:46 PDT
                     Re: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? petersm <petersm at venzia dot com> petersm <petersm at venzia dot com> 2004-04-12 12:22:13 PDT
                         RE: [maxq-users] anybody want these features? pombredanne Philippe Ombredanne 2004-04-13 16:26:42 PDT
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